By TripleCx3
Introductions
“No, I am your father.” Everyone loves Darth Vader and these plastic parodies manage to capture everything the iconic Darth Lord with a little comedy sprinkled in.
Evil Emperor Zurg, The Evil Intergalactic Conqueror of Evil
And Lord Garmadon, The Villainous Oni Master of Destruction
Before We Begin…
Both characters will be fully composited excluding media such as crossovers and Fortnite if either of them ends up in that. This does not mean Zurg is getting Kingdom Hearts scaling, that makes little sense to begin with, and Zurg isn’t even in those games.
Background
Zurg
Name: Zurg (Lightyear?!?!)
Age: Varies
Height: Varies (20-260cm)
Is Buzz’s Father except in Lightyear where he’s Buzz for some reason
“His realm is a rogue state, a terrorist hermit-kingdom of sorts” (who tf wrote that)
Evil just for the sake of it
Somehow incredibly threatening and not remotely threatening simultaneously
His enemies must prepare to die
Is #1 on the Naughty List
Garmadon
Name: Montgomery Garmadon
Age: Varies, 174 or 1000’s of years
Height: Varies (6-240cm)
Didn’t ruin Laloyd’s life because he wasn't even there
Casually the son of god
Is an undead human, snake, oni, dragon thing
The only character with the power to wield all 4 golden weapons
Was bitten by a snake that was bitten by a spider
Was resurrected by a biker gang/cult
Intelligence / Experience / Skill
Zurg
Zurg is a brilliant engineer, he has created plenty of robots and other tech. He has hatched a great many evil schemes. He’s enslaved entire planets, corrupted the Uni-Mind, and matched Buzz are great many times in battle and CQC. Zurg has created a very effective strategy of throwing his summons and such at his enemies in an attempt to wear them down, and play defence, attacking with his gadgets from afar.
Garmadon
Garmadon is incredibly skilled, being thousands of years old he was a crucial warrior in the Serpentine Wars, he has commanded 4 to 5 separate armies, and is considered to be the best villain Ninjago has ever seen. He has defeated nearly every notable character in the entire verse, ranging from his victory over a Two-Moon Tea-amped Mogra who at a time had a 100,000x power advantage, to the time he defeated 7 ninjas at once while depowered (The main 6 +PIXEL) to the time he fought an enormous bear, defeating the ancient beast without a single attack using The Art of the Silent Fist. The Art of the Silent Fist allows him to defeat enemies as powerful as Golden Master Lloyd.
Equipment / Weapons
Zurg
Ion Blaster
Zurg’s signature weapon is his Ion Blaster, which shoots energy projectiles at a high rate and is capable of completely disintegrating people
Zurgbots/Army
Zurg commands enormous legions, his Zurgbots are armed with powerful canons and explode in a shockwave upon death. He has robotic “Hornets”, which just have blasters for hands and are relatively stupid.
Zurg’s Dreadnaught
Zurg’s forces are housed on an enormous ship, durable enough to withstand black holes
Uni Mind
Zurg corrupted the Uni-Mind, the Uni-Mind is a mystical orb that mind effectively merges all its targets into a hive mind, Zurg has very little experience with it and it is unclear if it does more than corrupt one to evil.
Misc
Zurg possesses a variety of minor tech like a floating throne that can generate shields, and various minor firearms
Garmadon
Normal Weapons
Garmadon has wielded a variety of weapons, swords, staves, spears etc. and even daggers composed of pure destructive energy.
Mega Weapon/Golden Weapons
"Long before time had a name, Ninjago was created by the First Spinjitzu Master, using the Four Weapons of Spinjitzu. The Scythe of Quakes, the Nunchucks of Lightning, the Shurikens of Ice and the Sword of Fire. Weapons so powerful, no one can handle all of their power at once!”
Garmadon can handle these weapons, allowing him to harness the elements with great effect. He later combined them all into The Mega weapon, which can grant him a wish once a day, with the rule that he cannot destroy with said wish. Touching the Mega Weapon while not being able to withstand it erases the toucher.
Two Moon Tea
This Tea not only boosts one’s power tenfold but also seemingly heals all damage and enhances the drinkers' abilities. However too much can cause the user to overdose and explode.
Powers / Abilities
Zurg
Laser Eyes
Zurg possesses a laser/heat vision capable of melting through rifles
Flight
Zurg can fly with his rocket boots, hidden beneath his cape
Misc
Zurg can create a small ball of electricity
Garmadon
Spinjitzu
Garmadon can jump up, kick back, whip around, and spin. Spinjitzu is highly effective against swarms of enemies as well as on defence.
Element of Destruction
As the master of destruction, Garmadon gets basically every ability anyone could want. Read that link for an in-depth look but Garadon can Fire destructive blasts, rip people apart with tekenisis, create energy barriers, and literally just delete stuff, with full-on existence easure as his primary ability Because why not. He can use Umbrakinesis which the user to create cloudy tentacles of darkness. The Oni used this to petrify the citizens of Ninjago. It is shown to have other uses as if the victim manages to resist petrification, their energy will slowly deplete and they will begin to weaken. They will also have a hard time breathing, even if they are part-Oni. Upon defeating an enemy they will lose their power and slowly die if they haven’t already.
Stone Colossus
He can create and control a skyscraper-sized stone colossus capable of tearing through cities and easily crushing the Ninja and other elemental masters
Physiology
Garmadon is a little bit of everything, his bite from the great devourer gave him his signature 4 arms and the strength to resist the power of the weapons, and the elements it harnesses. With his Oni heritage, he can resist the effects of Umbrakinesis, is unaffected by any attempts to predict or change his future or fate as well as heal from being scorched and partially melted by the firstborn. As part of his nature, he grows far stronger the more he battles (reaching ranges of 100,000x in a single fight) over time he also has shown an ability to overcome debuffs such as a loss of power or even his loss of morals.
Scaling
Zurg
AP and Durability
Zurg obviously scales to Buzz who tanked this asteroid, this requires a force of over 200 gigatons of TNT Zurg can also scale to the Buzz Lightyear: Star Command villain Gravintina, who can make Sunquakes, Her gravity powers are capable of ripping chunks from a star and launching them at high speeds, which would require a force of roughly 11.3 Ronnatonnes of TNT.
Speed
Zurg scales to a large variety of laser dodging feats which are plentiful when Buzz’s main weapon is a laser. Buzz has also shown an ability to avoid the beams of the Uni Mind which can travel between planets.
Garmadon
AP and Durability
Even early in the show, Garmadon can withstand hits from the Scythe of Quakes which has raised continents. He also possesses the Mega Weapon and can withstand its power, the Mega Weapon is the sum of the parts that created Ninjago and when it was destroyed it created a Star. He fought Mogra after he had drank 5 cups of New Moon tea, each of which boosts power tenfold, equalling a 100,000x boost in power. Garmadon is also stated to be the only thing that can fight back against the entire Oni Army, which can destroy all the realms
Speed
Garmadon scales to a variety of laser dodging feats such as this one which comes in 1.1 the speed of light. He also has the multiplier from his Mogra Fight, which means he is far, far faster than the original feat (During the fight it was made fairly clear they were moving faster as power increased, so the boost should apply to speed). Garmadon can also scale to the Golden Weapons, which when they destroyed the Mega weapon and created a star, were launched lightyears away in only a fraction of a second, the multiplier would likely apply to this as well
Summary
Zurg
Advantages
The Uni-Mind could potentially incapacitate Garmadon for a time.
Better Tech
Has the Numbers
Disadvantages
Completely overwhelmed by Garmadon’s power and ability
Slower
No long-term benefit from the Uni-Mind
Garmadon
Advantages
Holy fuck that power gap
Faster
Element of Destruction can just annihilate Zurg and his army
Regeneration outdoes every tool in Zurg’s kit
Pretty hard to make Garmadon more evil.
Disadvantages
Outnumbered
Verdict
This is clear cut, even within the early seasons of Ninjago, Garmadon is withstanding power capable of creating an entire realm, sure chucking star chunks is impressive but those are incomprehensible gaps in power. Speed is closer, both the Uni-Mind and Mega Weapon are travelling between celestial bodies at extreme speeds, but the Mega Weapon did it in a fraction of a second while the Uni-Mind can in an unspecified amount of time, and with the 100,000x multiplier is unrealistic to assume that Zurg is faster. While Zurg has better and more technology, Garmadon has the Mega Weapon which gives him access to basically anything ever. Zurgs large army could pose a challenge had it not been for the Colossus Garmadon can create, which has had no problem single-handedly conquering a city and crushing a resistance. The element of Destruction lets Garmadon end the fight in an instant by just tearing him apart telekinetically, petrifying him, or fully deleting him altogether. Even if the Uni-Mind could completely control Garmadon he’d have no way to capitalise off of it before Garmadon grows past it. Zurg lacks any way to put Montgomery down and is completely outmanned on all fronts.
It (mini)figures that Zurg couldn’t toy around with Ninjago’s greatest Villain.
The Winner Is Garmadon
“I've played many roles. Worn many masks. Father. Husband. Brother. Teacher. But only one was summoned back... Destroyer!”
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